Debbie talks to Seth Godin about rejection and the art of “generous persistence” on the path to success, why trust is earned by “frequently and generously showing up,” and how to live in our difficult political moment.
“What we have to figure out is how to disconnect ourselves from the circle of fear and from the circle of contempt and even panic and make something that matters instead.”

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